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Message started by Paul Walters on Jun 22nd, 2011, 5:41pm

Title: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Paul Walters on Jun 22nd, 2011, 5:41pm

An unsolicited recommendation for the just-release Eastgate tutorial CD "Planning, Organizing, and Managing".  I'm just beginning to dig into this knowledge trove, and it's very worthwhile.  Many thanks to Mark B, Mark A, Stacy M, and all those who contributed to the disk.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by russ lipton on Jun 22nd, 2011, 5:53pm

What is the URL for checking this out and/or buying it?

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Bernstein on Jun 22nd, 2011, 6:34pm

It's in pre-release; URL should be available Monday.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by AGHorne on Jun 22nd, 2011, 6:52pm

I agree with Paul.  This is a great disc and worth the money...

Great information on this disc.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Bernstein on Jun 22nd, 2011, 6:55pm

Thanks!  Feel free to discuss the CD -- we simply need to work out some details for the Web page.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Stacey Mason on Jun 24th, 2011, 2:52pm

Thanks for the recommendations, guys! We worked hard on it.

We'll let you know as soon as the Web site stuff is worked out. I'll be posting a discussion on a couple of the example files once people have had a little time to play with it.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Stacey Mason on Jun 28th, 2011, 7:04pm

The tutorial site is now up and the tutorial is for sale.

http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Tutorial_CD.html

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Matt Cawood on Jun 29th, 2011, 12:07am

How big is the download version?

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from
Post by Mark Bernstein on Jun 29th, 2011, 4:06am

About 500MB

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Ben Worthington on Jun 29th, 2011, 5:04am

This looks great.  As someone who has a number of Tinderbox weekend CDs, I can testify as to how valuable these worked examples and screencasts are for showing you how to get things done in Tinderbox.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Anderson on Jun 29th, 2011, 5:28am

This image (from the CD's page) should inspire a few trying to do dashboards:



From that alone I can see you'll be learning about container plots, bar patterns, table expressions and more.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Pierre von Kaenel on Jun 30th, 2011, 9:58pm

I'm very confused about the web page describing the CD.  Following the "Volume 1" paragraph, there's one on new screencasts listing 7 topics and others on Twig. The section on "Targeted Examples" lists 7 titles, and more topics are listed below that. Are all these things part of the series 1 CD?  Or do these paragraphs describe the series in general?  

If the topics do not describe volume 1, then just what's on the CD?  thanks for any input.


Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Stacey Mason on Jul 1st, 2011, 12:28pm

The things listed on the webpage are all included in volume 1.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Pierre von Kaenel on Jul 1st, 2011, 12:42pm

Thanks, Stacy - I've placed the order.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Simon Warren on Jul 7th, 2011, 12:02pm

I have to say I'm very disappointed with the CD. I was hoping for an integrated and structured tutorial which would lead me into an understanding of Tinderbox's advanced features and power.

This seems to a collection of videos and example files from a variety of sources - many of them already available on the internet.

A typical example. Learning how to create a dashboard in screen cast five which lasts for a whole 39 seconds. It refers to an example file. Which file?

If the tutorial does contain a lot of useful information then I'm finding it as inaccessible and confusing as the features as I'm trying to learn about. So something of a Catch 22 experience for me.

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Post by Mark Bernstein on Jul 7th, 2011, 12:27pm

Simon: we'll let you know which file you want shortly.   But are we looking in the same place? In /Tutorial/Tinderbox/Dashboards, I see four screencasts with running times of 7:22, 9:11, 18:52, and 6:39 respectively.  

What features are you trying to learn about?  Perhaps we, or others here, can help point you in useful direction.  

There's an enormous variation among Tinderbox users in background, experience, and (of course) in the tasks they want to undertake.  This morning, for example, I've been advising a novelist who wants to understand a story world that extends over numerous published volumes, even more stories still to be told, and which requires sorting by date using a newly-invented calendar. Then, I've been helping a lawyer with a font problem, a professor with performance issues in his huge Tinderbox research file, and a postdoc contemplating Tinderbox-related research topics.  So, one-size-fits-all approaches aren't going to work perfectly!

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Post by Simon Warren on Jul 8th, 2011, 2:15am

ScrncastSF09Pt6.mov in the 1. MasonScrncastSF09 folder.

I hadn't seen those other files - they don't appear to be mentioned in the 'What's on this CD file'. Will work through those. They do look like they contain the sort of instruction I need.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Bernstein on Jul 8th, 2011, 10:42am

OK: Stacey's San Francisco talk was broken up into six separate movies, and the last one, which introduces a dashboard demo, is quite short because the details are better explored in the file than lectured upon.

The dashboards tutorial and Widgetron demo are in any case better for dashboards; we'll follow up regarding the previous demo.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Steve Mayer on Jul 11th, 2011, 5:58pm

How long after ordering the downloadable version should I expect to receive the actual download link?

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Bernstein on Jul 11th, 2011, 6:17pm

Typically, within a business day.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Steve Mayer on Jul 11th, 2011, 6:24pm

Thanks!


Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by J Fallows on Dec 3rd, 2011, 8:28pm

Here is an odd question. I got the physical CD; copied it onto my desktop machine a few months ago; and at the moment am not sure where the CD itself is. But I am also having trouble locating the downloaded tutorial files! What are some sample names of files I might search for? Thanks

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Anderson on Dec 3rd, 2011, 9:05pm

The root of the CD/DMG has a TBX called "What's On this CD?.tbx" and folders "Latest Versions", ExampleCases", "Tbx Cookbook", "Tutorial", "TB Demos". If you find that and if you use my demo bank (in TB Demos) then see this thread for a corrected index file.

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by J Fallows on Dec 3rd, 2011, 10:04pm

Thanks!

Title: Re: "Planning, Organizing and Managing" from Eastgate
Post by Mark Anderson on Dec 30th, 2012, 12:21pm

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