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Derek Van Ittersum
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Jun 01st, 2011, 1:07pm
 
I recently noticed in another thread that it is possible to opt+drag a reference from the program Bookends into Tinderbox to create a note with Key Attributes mapped to the author and title and year.

I would like to request similar functionality for Zotero or BibDesk.
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Reply #1 - Jun 2nd, 2011, 4:23am
 
This was raised before for BibDesk.

You can add the Tab-Separated-Value template (cf. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bibdesk/index.php?title=Templates) and adjust the preferences so that dragging from BibDesk uses this template.
Tinderbox recognizes this format and assigns the values to each corresponding attributes - I've noticed it now evens creates those attributes
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Reply #2 - Jun 2nd, 2011, 5:34am
 
Derek, it's worth sending specimen Zotero output data to support as not everyone will have such niche utilities. Experience has shown small utilities sometimes output even standard formats with odd (unseen) encoding which can trip up the reviewing app.

Re tab-delim.  As at v5.9.1, the app can trip on tab-delim import where there are 'empty' cells (i.e. 2 tabs with no data in between). A fix is already tested for the next release. For now (i.e. versions 5.9.1 and older, add a '0' (for empty numbers), 'false' (boolean) or for strings make sure the first record has a values for all strings. IOne way to do this is to ensure record #1 (row #2 of the text) has a value for all fields, even if you insert a dummy record just for that purpose. and delete it post import.
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Reply #3 - Jun 2nd, 2011, 6:54am
 
Happy to send data, but not sure how to do that for "drag data".  How can I determine what information is sent from Zotero when I drag a record?

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Reply #4 - Jun 2nd, 2011, 7:08am
 
Good point. Looking at the Zotero wiki, it seems you might better address this from both ends. The underlying point being there doesn't seem to be a fixed output type for Zotero. Rather, as with TB export, you make the format what you need it to be. Thus the question becomes, what formats does TB already support?

So, I'd email support and ask them what formats Tinderbox already accepts and then ask in the Zotero forums. Being open source and with a seemingly active user base likely someone's either already made such a Zotero mod or can produce one. This seems a quicker more flexible way to create this feature than engineering effort of the TB drop-receipt.

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Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2011, 4:10pm
 
Thanks Manuel for the tip (and link) to bibdesk.  This is perfect and exactly what I wanted.  

One strange thing, though.  When I drag references over, the "author" value gets mapped to the "name" attribute, even when I create an attribute named "author".

Also, for future zotero users, you can easily make use of the best features of zotero (the easy ability to slurp citation data from a wide variety of webpages) while using bibdesk by using this firefox extension: http://mackerron.com/zot2bib/
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